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December 6, 2025·Jumada II 15, 1447 AH·7:39 PM·7m·Saturday-Isha

When Did Islam's First Innovation Begin?

The First and Second Innovations in Islamic History: Bid'ah and Qadariyyah

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Summary

This lecture discusses Islamic innovations (bid'ah) and theological concepts, particularly focusing on the first and second innovations in Islamic history. The speaker explains that the first innovation occurred during the Prophet's time but escalated among the companions, leading to internal conflicts and murders. The second innovation discussed is the concept of Qadariyyah (the denial of divine decree), which emerged among Muslims living as minorities among disbelievers. The speaker uses Sahih Muslim as a reference point and illustrates theological concepts through examples, such as explaining how Allah's will encompasses all events while distinguishing between what Allah loves and what He merely allows to occur.

Transcript

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Other two together. Therefore, number two number three. Number what is in this verse of Allah. Because nothing subhanah willing it does anything happen against the will of Allah there was innovation what I've said this before if I've said before is m set up here you would have a 10 volume book with at least 6 700 narrations mentioned I mean a lot of knowledge has been passed around here alhamdulillah this is a blessing from Allah we were able to share these things together but I've I've already said most of this the first innovation in the history of Islam it happened during the time of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. But then it blew up in the time of the companions. It ended up being the cause of the murder of and then the murder of Ali and then the attempted murder of Muawi and it also was the driving force behind the murder of many companions and Muslim. What is that innovation? The first innovation in Islam is what? The innovation of Yes. That was the first innovation in Islam. The second innovation is in Muslim. It is the first narration in Sah Muslim. The narration of Abdullahb Omar who narrates that Omar who said that and the narration of Gibl in which a man came to us who had very black hair and very white clothing and he sat very close to the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam none of us knew him and he was it didn't look he had he was a traveler we know the narration right the first narration of sah Muslim Why did that narration come about? A group, two men of the scholars of the came from al-Bas and they came to make and find Omar and ask him about this an innovation that sprouted in. That innovation was the innovation of what? Anyone know the innovation of Aladar? The second innovation in Islamic history is the innovation with regards to the people of decree. They said they continued to to think. And remember this came from where you remember last night we said when we trace when we trace innovations we usually almost always nine times out of 10 find that those innovations come from where? Muslim living as a minority amongst a majority of disbelievers or on the borders where the Muslim and the disbelievers meet. The Muslim thear meet they have that interaction. This came from there from and they said.

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They said to Iban Omar, "We have a people where we come from. They are incredibly knowledgeable." However, they continue to try to trace knowledge all the way to its origins. And they have come to the conclusion that all of this has not been written yet. There is no such thing as decree. There is no such thing as or to say as a matter of fact not as to say as a matter of fact not only did Allah not write this he doesn't only did Allah not write this he doesn't even know about this existence. Could you imagine that Allah didn't It's not just that Allah didn't write it. He didn't know it was going to happen and he still doesn't know that this existence that this creation exists. These are people that called themselves Muslim and they memorized the Quran and they made salah and they went for and they went in jihad. So this is the second innovation in Islam. Aladia. One of the was debating one of and they said they said are he said to the scholar it was a scholar in the time of Imam Ahmed Allah he said so you're saying Allah that anything that happens is by the will of Allah are you saying that Allah willed for zena and shik and indecency and he responded and said are you saying that these things occur against the will of Allah now it has to be one of the two either Allah wills it or Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is forced is there anything that forces Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala absolutely However, just because Allah allows for something to happen, just because he wills for it to be in existence doesn't mean that he just like we as human beings there are things which we love innately and there are things which we love only because of the good that is brought by even if the thing itself is disliked. medicine, bitter medicine for for instance. Aspirin one of the most aspirin. When we go to an ice cream vendor, do we say, "Put a little aspirin on my on my cone?" Of course not. We dislike the taste of aspirin. it's immediately we dislike it, but we love it because of the effects that it has that can only come about by way of that bitterness. In order for.